Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise. ~ Luke 23:43
The comma is misplaced, there was no punctuation in the original Greek. Jesus could not have been in heaven that day, as He rose from the grave three days later (as the Jews measured days).
Interesting, thanks. Makes one wonder how many other misinterpretations, misrepresentations and misunderstandings abound in the various holy books of man…
Jul 9, 2023·edited Jul 10, 2023Liked by Joel Bowman
Most professed Christians do not understand their own religion. But, all will have an opportunity.
If you want to understand the Bible, look at the verses in context, and compare it with other verses on the same subject. That way you will get a better picture of what God is trying to tell you. Like the story of the three blind men and the elephant. Each of them only "saw" part of the elephant...
He spoke those words to the repentant thief, also crucified, and to his side. That day, the thief entered Heaven, rewarded for his faith and his supplication. Was he escorted there? Did Jesus die that day, only to live for those three days in the House of the Lord before returning for forty more days? Who's to say? No one that is here on Earth can speak to it.
I am who? The one who breaks the laws of gravity, the one who reads thoughts, the one who said he is the light{ not he had the light, but he is the light}, so it is very complicated to say that Jesus could not be in two places in the same time? Jesus said me and the father we are ONE; as himself claimed, he claimed to be the resurrection and the life{ he not said he have resurrection and life, he is the resurrection and the life}, we have two points to consider: or Jesus lied to all of us, or he is the Great GOD! because to accomplish all this, to be a light, to appear and disappear from nothing, to float without the aid of technologies, to predict with details the future. To me he is the almighty GOD { not god }, without doubt.
There are very minor 'scriveners errors' in the Bible like that, and not all versions are good to study from (I use the KJV, since it's a Reformation era Bible). Luke 23:43 is easy to figure out, once you look up all the verses on what happens when you die. Jesus actually did DIE; He was willing to say goodbye to life forever, in order that we could have His life. I cover this in my little booklet, Discourse On Agape, link previously posted.
Your last sentence is a perfect description of a believer’s life…..in my opinion. I agree…. beautifully written….a piece of the puzzle for all to place on the board.
I was thinking about this the other day, the Japanese concept of Kintsugi, the idea of celebrating (or perhaps appreciating) the “brokenness” in things. Seems like a nice “East meets west” kind of idea.
How did I miss this newsletter, alas I was observing Passover, the very same event Christians have errantly renamed the Last Super while renaming the 7 day festival Easter a fertility festival in honor of Astarte the Roman mother of god and queen of the Universe. On the Sunday closest to the equinox the rays of the sun impregnated the earth ushering forth all manner of birth and growth.
Alas the story crafted by Luke and Paul is mostly fiction, God did not die. God is an eternal being, He was not born nor could He be killed by His own creation. This not to say that every pagan god ever to be created by clerics did not die and then 3 days later rise from the dead.
If the story was true that the Jew did kill God in 33 CE it would be wise to worship the people who could kill God, not persecute the same.
The motivation for creating such a story, can be seen even today. God was able to create the universe but alas He's not able to manage money, a never ending stream of funds must be collected by paid clerics. Clerics who have taken vows of poverty while living in the grandest palaces ever crafted by men. Men who always have something to eat and a place to lay their head, while the parisioners die of plague and famine.
You are correct that God cannot die. But the only begotten Son of God, who received His life from the Father, could lay His life down, and truly die. He was completely dependent on the Father, and if the Father had not called Him forth from the grave, He would be there till this day. Acts 2:32 I cover this in my little booklet, Discourse On Agape: https://discourseonagape.org/booklets/
We are in agreement except you believe Paul, and not the Father. If you were to awake from your religion and listen to God, instead of Paul you'd move from walking on the broad path. The narrow path is the unpopular path few find or walk. 2.4 billion people identity as Christians it is the most popular religion in the world. On the first tablet give Moseh:
Exodus 20:5 For indeed, I, Yahowah, your God, am a zealous and jealous God, Who is desirous of exclusivity in our relationship, reckoning the perversity and sin of twisting and distorting, of perverting and manipulating the way, by the fathers upon the children concerning the third and the fourth generations of those who are hostile to Me.
(Twisting and distorting is the hallmark of all religions.)
But I will prepare, perform, and deliver unmerited and unfailing mercy, unearned favor, and undeserved kindness to thousands who love Me, and who closely observe, carefully examine, revere, and keep My teachings, instructions, and prescriptions for living. (Torah)
Hebrew words are defined by their verbal roots, as such the verbal root of Torah is 'yarah' which means 'to teach' making Torah, teaching, instructions, directions, guidance, not law. Torah does not mean law, moreover, there is no word properly translated in Hebrew that can mean 'obey'. Contrary to Paul and Christianity there are no laws that have to be obeyed. Paul lied when he said the Torah cannot save, in fact if you're without Torah you're outside of Yahowah's ability to save. Furthermore, there are no Commandments. This is another slight of hand created by the Christian church yes, another lie. The book titled Deuteronomy or second law from the Greek is titled 'Dabarym' from the Hebrew meaning 'Words or Statements'. The first tablet concerns how Yahowah's family is to interact with His person within the covenant relationship. The second tablets statements instruct the children how they are to interact with each other within Yahowah's family. These statements are written in the Imperfect denoting an ongoing action. Properly translated each should have been written: Do not make a habit of... Do not make a habit of lying, murder, theft, etc.
Torah is often described by Yahowah as His sole means to be used to settle disputes.
The period of Judges over Israel was not like our judicial system today. The Judges did not settle disputes they clarified the dispute and then made their final determination based solely on what Torah prescribed on each matter. A stolen goat was replaced four fold, might this have been a much better system than our current judicial system of loopholes and case law?
A perfect system, no police, prisons, courts. Most all of what religions teach concerning God's system and will is errant.
Contrary ro Christian teaching God does not desire to save the world nor was the lamb sent for this purpose. God's not a fool, He's well aware 99% of humanity has or will have no interest in coming to know Him. As God declared on the first tablet; His mercy is for the thousands who in showing love live by His prescriptions for living. That would include not a single Christian or other religious person. Paul set the standard, Torah cannot save, is enslaving, a taskmaster, etc. Yet Yahowah states the opposite is true. Narrow Path, unpopular, Broad path popular.
Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise. ~ Luke 23:43
The comma is misplaced, there was no punctuation in the original Greek. Jesus could not have been in heaven that day, as He rose from the grave three days later (as the Jews measured days).
https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/2013/06/the-significance-of-a-comma:-an-analysis-of-luke-23:43
Interesting, thanks. Makes one wonder how many other misinterpretations, misrepresentations and misunderstandings abound in the various holy books of man…
Most professed Christians do not understand their own religion. But, all will have an opportunity.
If you want to understand the Bible, look at the verses in context, and compare it with other verses on the same subject. That way you will get a better picture of what God is trying to tell you. Like the story of the three blind men and the elephant. Each of them only "saw" part of the elephant...
He spoke those words to the repentant thief, also crucified, and to his side. That day, the thief entered Heaven, rewarded for his faith and his supplication. Was he escorted there? Did Jesus die that day, only to live for those three days in the House of the Lord before returning for forty more days? Who's to say? No one that is here on Earth can speak to it.
Thanks again Alex. This point is something I have often wondered about...
you will die in your sins (John 8:24)
if you not recognize that I am.
I am who? The one who breaks the laws of gravity, the one who reads thoughts, the one who said he is the light{ not he had the light, but he is the light}, so it is very complicated to say that Jesus could not be in two places in the same time? Jesus said me and the father we are ONE; as himself claimed, he claimed to be the resurrection and the life{ he not said he have resurrection and life, he is the resurrection and the life}, we have two points to consider: or Jesus lied to all of us, or he is the Great GOD! because to accomplish all this, to be a light, to appear and disappear from nothing, to float without the aid of technologies, to predict with details the future. To me he is the almighty GOD { not god }, without doubt.
very observant. tells you how a monk changing a coma can change the meaning of what Jesus or others said.
There are very minor 'scriveners errors' in the Bible like that, and not all versions are good to study from (I use the KJV, since it's a Reformation era Bible). Luke 23:43 is easy to figure out, once you look up all the verses on what happens when you die. Jesus actually did DIE; He was willing to say goodbye to life forever, in order that we could have His life. I cover this in my little booklet, Discourse On Agape, link previously posted.
Beautiful. May I be as inspired once I set upon the path of discovery.
Your last sentence is a perfect description of a believer’s life…..in my opinion. I agree…. beautifully written….a piece of the puzzle for all to place on the board.
Thank you, kind reader! 'twas an impossible place to visit and not feel inspired...
Thank you Joel, the inspiration you provide opens my mind beyond measure...
Thanks for reading, kind sir!
Beautifully and carefully crafted language, as usual Joel. It's really lovely to be with your family on this journey.
Your camaraderie is appreciated!
Again, I like the vehicle while saddened by its contents.
I was thinking about this the other day, the Japanese concept of Kintsugi, the idea of celebrating (or perhaps appreciating) the “brokenness” in things. Seems like a nice “East meets west” kind of idea.
Yes, he did, and according to God, it was Dowd who acted as the Lamb, or you believe God a liar.
How did I miss this newsletter, alas I was observing Passover, the very same event Christians have errantly renamed the Last Super while renaming the 7 day festival Easter a fertility festival in honor of Astarte the Roman mother of god and queen of the Universe. On the Sunday closest to the equinox the rays of the sun impregnated the earth ushering forth all manner of birth and growth.
Alas the story crafted by Luke and Paul is mostly fiction, God did not die. God is an eternal being, He was not born nor could He be killed by His own creation. This not to say that every pagan god ever to be created by clerics did not die and then 3 days later rise from the dead.
If the story was true that the Jew did kill God in 33 CE it would be wise to worship the people who could kill God, not persecute the same.
The motivation for creating such a story, can be seen even today. God was able to create the universe but alas He's not able to manage money, a never ending stream of funds must be collected by paid clerics. Clerics who have taken vows of poverty while living in the grandest palaces ever crafted by men. Men who always have something to eat and a place to lay their head, while the parisioners die of plague and famine.
HE laid down his life.
You are correct that God cannot die. But the only begotten Son of God, who received His life from the Father, could lay His life down, and truly die. He was completely dependent on the Father, and if the Father had not called Him forth from the grave, He would be there till this day. Acts 2:32 I cover this in my little booklet, Discourse On Agape: https://discourseonagape.org/booklets/
We are in agreement except you believe Paul, and not the Father. If you were to awake from your religion and listen to God, instead of Paul you'd move from walking on the broad path. The narrow path is the unpopular path few find or walk. 2.4 billion people identity as Christians it is the most popular religion in the world. On the first tablet give Moseh:
Exodus 20:5 For indeed, I, Yahowah, your God, am a zealous and jealous God, Who is desirous of exclusivity in our relationship, reckoning the perversity and sin of twisting and distorting, of perverting and manipulating the way, by the fathers upon the children concerning the third and the fourth generations of those who are hostile to Me.
(Twisting and distorting is the hallmark of all religions.)
But I will prepare, perform, and deliver unmerited and unfailing mercy, unearned favor, and undeserved kindness to thousands who love Me, and who closely observe, carefully examine, revere, and keep My teachings, instructions, and prescriptions for living. (Torah)
Hebrew words are defined by their verbal roots, as such the verbal root of Torah is 'yarah' which means 'to teach' making Torah, teaching, instructions, directions, guidance, not law. Torah does not mean law, moreover, there is no word properly translated in Hebrew that can mean 'obey'. Contrary to Paul and Christianity there are no laws that have to be obeyed. Paul lied when he said the Torah cannot save, in fact if you're without Torah you're outside of Yahowah's ability to save. Furthermore, there are no Commandments. This is another slight of hand created by the Christian church yes, another lie. The book titled Deuteronomy or second law from the Greek is titled 'Dabarym' from the Hebrew meaning 'Words or Statements'. The first tablet concerns how Yahowah's family is to interact with His person within the covenant relationship. The second tablets statements instruct the children how they are to interact with each other within Yahowah's family. These statements are written in the Imperfect denoting an ongoing action. Properly translated each should have been written: Do not make a habit of... Do not make a habit of lying, murder, theft, etc.
Torah is often described by Yahowah as His sole means to be used to settle disputes.
The period of Judges over Israel was not like our judicial system today. The Judges did not settle disputes they clarified the dispute and then made their final determination based solely on what Torah prescribed on each matter. A stolen goat was replaced four fold, might this have been a much better system than our current judicial system of loopholes and case law?
A perfect system, no police, prisons, courts. Most all of what religions teach concerning God's system and will is errant.
Contrary ro Christian teaching God does not desire to save the world nor was the lamb sent for this purpose. God's not a fool, He's well aware 99% of humanity has or will have no interest in coming to know Him. As God declared on the first tablet; His mercy is for the thousands who in showing love live by His prescriptions for living. That would include not a single Christian or other religious person. Paul set the standard, Torah cannot save, is enslaving, a taskmaster, etc. Yet Yahowah states the opposite is true. Narrow Path, unpopular, Broad path popular.
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